tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post1315739945424722638..comments2011-07-16T17:50:41.210-04:00Joe Peacockhttps://profiles.google.com/103360367561887165779noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-33288580580459323212011-07-16T17:50:41.211-04:002011-07-16T17:50:41.211-04:00Just by the brazenness of the whole thing I assumed it was intended as a tongue-in-cheek manifesto. If its for real, it sounds like a great way to lose your finger and then lose it again next week and still not see the big picture; an idea central to David Allen&#39;s work IMHO. I loved the artwork for it though, may print it out for my workshop just for the heck of it.Owen M. Wardhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08065714313609594998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-46098942472885119342011-07-16T17:50:40.639-04:002011-07-16T17:50:40.639-04:00This was illuminating in its approach at addressing this silly idea with practicality in mind-- and generally those sorts of conditions tend to generate resourceful satire. Think about Chris Rock doing his routine on prisons &amp; education. If people are confused at all by this, its more because they lack the ability to distinguish between the irony in the over-thought transposed against practicality and why it was ever practical. And anyone who willingly surrenders their reputation and joins themselves at the philosophical hip with anything referred to as a cult, is bound to respond as would any other sheep -- mindlessly. Don&#39;t get discouraged about the misinterpretation-- the right people understood you perfectly.Matt Thathttp://matt-that.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-8296514693925310202011-07-16T17:50:40.144-04:002011-07-16T17:50:40.144-04:00He doesn&#39;t have to &quot;lighten up&quot;, he/she is perfectly fine as they are. One can and should rant at stupid shit on the internet. The pure signal to idiot ratio is getting smaller by the day. <br><br>Refute his points, not the meta problems you see. If you think that his post is a waste of time, you never had to even enter the discussion yet you have. If you have interest in his well being due to him &quot;taking it seriously&quot;, give him a call or an email.<br><br>If we dont have people who can call a spade a spade, who will be left to tell the truth from the lies, surely not anonymous.Wade Mealinghttp://blog.subverted.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-91764051532618156262011-07-16T17:50:39.523-04:002011-07-16T17:50:39.523-04:00I wrote a really cool reply, and blogger dumped it with a snarky and pithy error message.<br><br>I guess the programming-by-committee crowd from M$FT has infected Google. I bet they bill in mega-hours and talk all day long about &quot;deliverables.&quot;Demohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00236837666177150428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-68988107991855904242011-07-16T17:50:39.115-04:002011-07-16T17:50:39.115-04:00Dear Joe The Peacock,<br><br>Please blow harder.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Wayne The PainWayne The Painnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-18847128679234110332011-07-16T17:50:38.876-04:002011-07-16T17:50:38.876-04:00I like the cult of done. It&#39;s iterative. It doesn&#39;t really limit what you can do when you&#39;re done. Planning is doing. When you&#39;re done planning you can go on to done something else, right? I like nihilism as well. Things matter and things are complete in the same subjective and relative sense. There&#39;s always more to do no matter what you accomplished or paid a painful price of failure for. And that&#39;s not the only way to look at your experiences, just one iterative way.Sethhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15859050919978654126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-26732226650151076682011-07-16T17:50:38.481-04:002011-07-16T17:50:38.481-04:00It&#39;s interesting how Wall Street-style Zen compares to this view Buddhist economics, on the place of labor:<br><br>http://www.smallisbeautiful.org/buddhist_economics/english.htmlJoelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16755460714090772432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-34793647680079739502011-07-16T17:50:38.096-04:002011-07-16T17:50:38.096-04:00You certainly are one of these guys who eat the menu card at a restaurant and then complain about its bad taste.<br><br>As humorous as your post is, you are not supposed to take the &quot;manifesto&quot; (I admit, not the best title pick) literally. As I see it, this text is very much alike to many zen riddles and verses from the tao te-king. <br><br>The &quot;manifesto&quot; is intentionally written vaguely so it serves as a base for reflective thought. The result of contemplation should be understanding.<br><br>When you misunderstand the text (which you obviously intended to do), your response turns inevitably into humorous take on the impatient and vociferous. Funny, but misleading to those who do not know how to read such a text.paniqhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09075774021335432327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-6693034415968667272011-04-27T13:56:17.013-04:002011-04-27T13:56:17.013-04:00U MAD BRO? WHAT A WASTE OF TIME!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-79862422891557028892010-10-22T07:08:17.625-04:002010-10-22T07:08:17.625-04:00well i guess if you want to live by mantra, if you follow their rules thats what your going to get...If people are confused at all by this, its more because they lack the ability to distinguish between the irony in the over-thought transposed against practicality and why it was ever practical...right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-53732254189200129452009-03-23T07:37:00.000-04:002009-03-23T07:37:00.000-04:00You certainly are one of these guys who eat the menu card at a restaurant and then complain about its bad taste.<BR/><BR/>As humorous as your post is, you are not supposed to take the "manifesto" (I admit, not the best title pick) literally. As I see it, this text is very much alike to many zen riddles and verses from the tao te-king. <BR/><BR/>The "manifesto" is intentionally written vaguely so it serves as a base for reflective thought. The result of contemplation should be understanding.<BR/><BR/>When you misunderstand the text (which you obviously intended to do), your response turns inevitably into humorous take on the impatient and vociferous. Funny, but misleading to those who do not know how to read such a text.paniqhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09075774021335432327noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-36285729441967914742009-03-23T06:22:00.000-04:002009-03-23T06:22:00.000-04:00Yep, I'm going to vote for the "bloody hell, just chill out Joe!" theme in these comments. It looks like you've missed the point here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-70387278775438816802009-03-18T14:36:00.000-04:002009-03-18T14:36:00.000-04:00It's interesting how Wall Street-style Zen compares to this view Buddhist economics, on the place of labor:<BR/><BR/>http://www.smallisbeautiful.org/buddhist_economics/english.htmlJoelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16755460714090772432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-40475043699252566042009-03-14T01:38:00.000-04:002009-03-14T01:38:00.000-04:00Joe,<BR/><BR/>Great piece. As you put it, obsession on action produces nothing useful whatsoever.<BR/><BR/>My "take" goes a little bit further: Obsessive inaction produces nothing whatsoever.<BR/><BR/>Take a look at the counterpoint to GTD, EffTD (Effing The Dog); and if you'd like to guest post some time, let me know.<BR/><BR/>Eventually.Mike Vardyhttp://www.effingthedog.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-49573150983585607172009-03-13T23:58:00.000-04:002009-03-13T23:58:00.000-04:00done.Sebastianhttp://youtube.com/hackmebabynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-25488551495888412442009-03-13T13:50:00.000-04:002009-03-13T13:50:00.000-04:00I like the cult of done. It's iterative. It doesn't really limit what you can do when you're done. Planning is doing. When you're done planning you can go on to done something else, right? I like nihilism as well. Things matter and things are complete in the same subjective and relative sense. There's always more to do no matter what you accomplished or paid a painful price of failure for. And that's not the only way to look at your experiences, just one iterative way.Sethhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15859050919978654126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-48995154381178817152009-03-13T09:05:00.000-04:002009-03-13T09:05:00.000-04:00Pretty good stuff dude. Well done!<BR/><BR/>RT<BR/>www.privacy.at.tcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-16435219013400743092009-03-13T08:32:00.000-04:002009-03-13T08:32:00.000-04:00The post would have been better without the sarcasm. You bring up valid points, but I am naturally mad/skeptical that you're trying to be offensive. <BR/><BR/>I'm not part of the cult of done, btw. Just an observer.nyajhttp://nyaj.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-75492952535324391872009-03-13T06:31:00.000-04:002009-03-13T06:31:00.000-04:00I don't think you and the cult of done are on the same page when it comes to the semantics involved but still I agree with most of your points. <BR/>With regards to #8 on the list however I think, judging by your short response to it, that you have not thought it through. This link might help: http://www.defmacro.org/ramblings/taming-perfectionism.html<BR/>tl;dr<BR/>Sometimes it is better to get something done that works rather than waiting to stumble on the perfect solution. Just not in the robotic cult of done way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-39235861032577056012009-03-13T04:24:00.000-04:002009-03-13T04:24:00.000-04:00Dear Joe The Peacock,<BR/><BR/>Please blow harder.<BR/><BR/>Thanks,<BR/><BR/>Wayne The PainWayne The Painnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-75216692844898477462009-03-13T04:23:00.000-04:002009-03-13T04:23:00.000-04:00hahaha the Cult of Done was written by a bunch of DiY nerds who a) wrote it about their own projects b) were getting a kick out of writing their own manifesto. chill out!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-55439498731712896802009-03-13T01:10:00.000-04:002009-03-13T01:10:00.000-04:00dude, they aren't talking about work for clients or your job or anything; it's about hobbies and shit. The idea is to just do the projects you have kicking around in your head.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-20771346386371732072009-03-13T00:58:00.000-04:002009-03-13T00:58:00.000-04:00I wrote a really cool reply, and blogger dumped it with a snarky and pithy error message.<BR/><BR/>I guess the programming-by-committee crowd from M$FT has infected Google. I bet they bill in mega-hours and talk all day long about "deliverables."Demohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00236837666177150428noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-41025702874573374252009-03-13T00:37:00.000-04:002009-03-13T00:37:00.000-04:00^WTF?<BR/>I didn't find it bitter in the slightest. If anything you gave dimension to their Borg-like mantra, then translated it into something actually applicable in reality.<BR/>Their #1 reminds me of Scientology's "cycle of action". Creepy shitweasels.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5878927.post-19983722365562179412009-03-12T23:57:00.000-04:002009-03-12T23:57:00.000-04:00I'm not familiar w/ the CoD but this diatribe, while entertaining and probably valid from some stance, comes off as a bit over-simplified and, well, bitter. Your side of the coin is shiny and fun, though. Yay!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com