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8.28.2009

Hey Ladies - Let Me Fill You In On A Secret

I just read Dorothy Snarker's writeup, Six Packs Are For Cans, about the fashion industry and beauty magazines and one particular model photo (Possibly NSFW, if your boss is a tightass) that's causing some stupid uproar. And she makes some incredibly good points in that article. And while I HIGHLY encourage you to read every single word of her article and take it in and understand it and live it, naturally, you're probably going to wonder what dudes think. And since Dorothy's a chick, and you're chicks, and it's hard to take a chick's word on what dude's think of chicks, I figured I'd let you in on a secret.

Fashion and "beauty" magazines Photoshop models to look like some overly-aggrandized ideal figure. This is not the secret. Anyone whose spent any time on the net has seen the bazillion or so sites that reveal model retouching with before and after photos, showing everyone from Halle Berry to Beyonce to Megan Fox being retouched from "human" to "super OMG beauty goddess whatever."

The secret:

They, the magazines and make up manufacturers and clothing creaters, do not do this because this ideal is what we men find beautiful. It's not.

They do this because they want to convince you that this ideal is what we men find beautiful - and that ideal they're pitching is so realistically unattainable (or, rather, is attainable, but only through 8 hours a day at the gym, a professional nutritionist, and many, many sessions at the plastic surgeon's den o' cuttery).

And it forces you to go out and starve yourselves on fad diets and buy stupid heaps of ugly makeup and magazines that teach you how to be what you never could (or should) be and expensive clothes, making you hate yourselves when you look in the mirror to the point where, in my own simple polling at the gym last night, eight out of ten women - all of whom I find devestatingly beautiful - said that they wanted some sort of body enhancement or reduction surgery.

Not "would consider" - WANT.

That's such complete bullshit.

Do you realize how little attention men pay to the tiny imperfections you've been psycholocially abused into thinking we care about? NONE. Except for those jock meathead fucksticks in New Jersey who can't even see past their own tiny dicks due to having their heads shoved all the way up their own asses. And if you're caring what a guy like that thinks, you're already broken to the point that I can no longer help you.

Regular men - REAL men - don't see that. Beauty is in humanity. To have curves and shape and form is to be human. To be without those things, to hold yourself to an impossible ideal... Men won't ever tell you this, but when they see women like that, there's a subconsious event that triggers that immediately makes them uninterested. They may be ATTRACTED, but ultimately, it's just to the glint and glitter of the smooth thing in front of them; a fleeting thing at best. They're not actually interested in pursuing anything meaningful with a woman like that, because after all, she's broken to the point of caring more about what other people think than in being confident in herself.

You're beautiful, naturally. Take good care of your body. Eat right and exercise. But do those things for YOU, because you love how you feel when you do it and because it's just right to protect and nurture yourself... Not because you think some dude wants to see a six pack. And for chrissake, stay the hell away from the surgeon, unless your condition is a detriment to you physically.

Stop reading any magazine you can buy while you're checking out at the grocery store. Quit holding yourselves up to some retarded social ideal of what you should be. Be beautiful by loving yourself. Confidence is one thousand times sexier than any physical attribute.


50 comments:

  1. I heart you sometimes. Don't get choked up; I'm sure it won't last long.

    Great post though! Consider it retweeted!
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  2. The "before" pictures are invariably more attractive!
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  3. Well said! Gonna be sharing this one with lots of friends. Great post dood.
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  4. Welcome to your daily pick me up, by Joe the Peacock.

    And what the fuck is up with the random dig at Jersey? Fucking southerners.
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  5. "Be beautiful by loving yourself."

    Hot
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  6. Yep, Joe's right, for further (more wordy) reading check out:

    1. The Kruetzer Sonata (80 page short story) by Leo Tolstoi (yes, the dude who wrote War and Peace)

    and

    2. In Defense of Women by H.L. Mencken

    Furthermore, a POX upon those arse-hole marketers that try desperately to make men as 'body-self-conscious' as women, just to sell more horridly useless products to them.
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  7. Nicely put, Joe.

    I just ignore the fashion industry crap myself because they focus on a body type that's not mine. I'm 5'4" and greatly overweight...they design for 5'8"+ and BMI of 18 or so. From a selling standpoint it makes no sense to me. Yes, I understand that clothing "hangs" better on that sort of body because there's no curves, lumps or bumps, but if the average American (as of 2006) is 5' 3.8" and probably has about 40-50 pounds on those models, how do they expect to have their clothing look good enough on the average person to make it sell even when sized up to fit?
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  8. What women don't realize is that men are looking at the parts of a woman that atract them not the parts that they are trying to cover up/change.
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  9. As an anonymous and thus brutally honest commentor, I'd like to say that while I find 'real' women far, far, far, far more attractive than their fashionista/model/supermodel/pornstar counterparts, I'm ok with them aspiring to be that way bc it results in a low self esteem that makes it far, far, far, far easier to get them into bed. And I'm pretty sure every dude everywhere agrees with me on that, but will of course never admit it if there's any chance at all that any female anywhere might hear that they said so. K, that is all.
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  10. right on the money, man. aside from looking, most men don't want anything to do with ladies like that. that's why vapid "hot" chicks always wonder why they don't get approached at bars. they're eye candy, but that's it.
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  11. Hey Joe,

    Let me explain something for you here. Women aren't trying to attract or impress men. Men aren't that picky and most will take whatever they can get. Women dress to impress other women. I'm going to say it again: Women dress to impress other women. Female social dominance hinges around intimidating other women through arbitrary physical appearance standards. Women are trying to send out a message that says "back off, he's mine, you can't compete with me." Like I said, most men are pretty easy.
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  12. thank you..i needed to hear this today of all days..

    by the way..it is not just NJ guys, count in NYC guys too that flock to the bitchy size 0 girl because she is small and cute..then they complain that she has no personality or is too high maintenance.
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  13. Hear hear, man. I get so tired of seeing women I know go from absolutely beautiful to Get-This-Woman-A-Sandwich-Stat skinny and think they're IMPROVING themselves.

    Far be it from me to judge someone for lacking self confidence, but to all women: we men are generally not that picky. If you have other good qualities (ie: you're not a flipping psycho), we can see past whether your butt looks fat in a certain pair of jeans...In fact, we probably won't even notice unless you mention it!
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  14. Most women aren't getting to skinny. Most are becoming land whales.

    Being in shape is not easy, but it is not impossible. You need self-control, determination, time management and intelligence.

    Whenever I'm gasping for breath, dreading another set of squats, I think of all the internet trolls making excuses for gluttony and laziness. It inspires me to get back under the bar and put in more work.
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  15. Your advice will fall largely one deaf ears. Americans - and women in particular - are easy targets for marketeers. They all wear the same crap clothes, watch the same crap TV and movies, listen to the same crap music, belong to the same crap social networking sites (which is the height of pathetic), eat at the same crap chain restaurants, drive the same crap cars, and sneer in disgust at anyone who doesn't. None of them have any idea that they are being constantly psychologically manipulated at almost every turn.
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  16. First of all, this is perhaps the worst piece of writing since Dan Brown came out with something.

    Secondly, ladies, if you don't feel sexy, men are going to have a hard time finding you sexy. The first thing I look for in a woman is how secure she is with her body. It bores the hell out of me hearing women bad mouth themselves. Come on!
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  17. A-Freakin'-men! Ladies, don't buy the hype: What men really want is a REAL girl, not some plastic mock-up you find in Cosmo or any of those rags. Just be you. We will come knocking!
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  18. Good post, but moderately alarming how stupid women are perceived to be by the magazines, the media and a lot of people posting here. I know this sounds crazy, but some of us actually do know how to think for ourselves and buy those magazines because we want to look at outfits or read articles about dates that went wrong. I think most women get plastic surgery for reasons related to society's obsession with youth instead of to attract a man. The majority of plastic surgery is anti-aging, not augmentation. Fashion is about impressing other women, not men. Eating right is about looking good for yourself so that you'll be confident and as every one of those magazines say over and over and over and over, "confidence is sexy!!". Like any body modification, piercings, tattoos, haircolor, whatever, I think people should probably examine their motives behind it before they make the commitment and only follow through if it's purely for one's own happiness.
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  19. Joe the peacock is a chubby chaser! They can't run fast enough to get away...
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  20. I agree with the other female poster that a lot of the "dress to impress" behavior by women is not directed at men. It's not just other women, though - how you look has a pretty strong impact on how well you'll do professionally, if you're female. Looking like a porn star will count against you, professionally (unless you're a porn star!) but so will being overweight or wearing unfashionable clothes It's about social status, baby. Same as with men and nice suits.
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  21. Whoever said all Americans especially american women are all the same is INCREDIBLY IGNORANT. I am sick of hearing others lump people into stereotypical groups. No one person is like any other person, and that is what makes us unique and beautiful.
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  22. This is one of the stupidest articles I ever read and this new "accept yourself" and "love yourself for who you are" campaign is nothing more then a marketing campain targeting the fat chicks. I am not a meat head, I am not in the best shape of my life but I have a 6 pack and i look good at the beach. Why? Because I eat a salad for lunch and hit the gym and the treadmil 4 days a week. Its not much its not crazy but its just enough to stay healthy. When you are curvy, plus size, pleasantly plump - you are FAT and FAT is unhealthy, it looks unhealthy, it is unhealthy it causes permanent damage to your body (its alot easier to stay skinny when your skinny vs. become skinny when youre fat). I mean look, if you just had a baby last week thats understandable but if you had a baby a year ago.. get yourself off the couch and go be healthy. Look fattys - you can keep saying your beautiful and eating more and having "curves" and what not and trying to feel better about yourself and end up eventually dying of clogged arteries and high cholesterol, or you can stfu hit the gym be healthy, have a feeling of acomplishing something by looking healthy and attractive at the beach.

    As for what guys like in a woman?
    I am a successfull guy thats in shape and there is no way I would wake up in bed in the morning next to a whale. There is some FOOD for thought.

    Healthyguy
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  23. Oh and one more thing, it doesn't matter how comfortable you ladies are with your bodies or how sexy you think you look or how confident you think you look. If you are FAT you are FAT which is unnatractive unless you get a Dragon Slayer (Chubby Chaser) or a FAT Spouse.

    Did you know being fat restricts your movement, endurance and sex drive?

    The End!
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  24. HealthyGuy, you forgot one more thing.

    Being in shape allows you to know that you're better than the everyone else. It's wonderful tool like the Internet that allow you tell us exactly how much better you are.

    I'd rather wake up in bed next to a fatty comfortable with herself than next to a stuck up woman who thinks she is better than everyone else around her. Arrogance is just as repulsive to most people as fat is to you.
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  25. I'd rather have a woman with curves than a skeleton.

    Don't really care about looks beyond that.

    I actually have dated a lot of women based on their PERSONALITY rather than their looks.

    You can have that "drop dead gorgeous" look and be about as interesting as a glass of water and that's fine for some, but not me.

    /just sayin.

    Oh, and grats on the fark greenlight.

    Too bad most of the snarky comments will be about sharp knees and the like (coming from some of the most shallow people on the internet....)
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  26. What a crock of crap. Just because a woman is thin and takes good care of herself does NOT make her shallow, high maintenance, or a bitch. Just because a woman care about what people think doesn't mean she is a snob or beneath your notice.

    Men, stop pandering to the fat women. Really. If a woman chooses not to be healthy, what does that say about her?
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  27. I know more women who are in better health and shape than their skinny counterparts. The problem with women is the continual polarizing of the two extremes, and the continual demand to be some magazine ideal is what leads to both.

    HealthyGuy: Some people turn to food for love, others turn to obsessively working out. I guess you have more in common with those fat people than you care to admit.
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  28. Good post. You just got to be in decent proportion. Decently shaped body and I'm turned on. If you show me a ferrari, sure it's sexy, but I drive a ford every day and I loev it. As stated by others confidence is very sexy. I've met some larger women that I wouldn't date based on body type, but after hanging out with them they were attractive. Contrary to popular belief men do look beyond looks.
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  29. 'Healthyguy' takes it too far, but then so do his detractors.

    Yes, don't obsess over having a perfect body. But at least *try* to keep to below four mars bars a day, eh? Meet us halfway on this, like.
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  30. I'm gonna go ahead and say it:

    It's NOT shallow to find obesity unattractive.
    Much as it suits some of you to believe otherwise, it just isn't.
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  31. bless you for writing this, Joe the Peacock, whoever you are-
    it's ear candy!
    and whether there are many men who fall for the Victoria's Secret 'angels', the Sports Illustrated supermodels.. (I do live in NYC, see, and there are alotta Master of the Universe types here, looking for a womantrophy--), it still pays for women to remind themselves that we don't want to attract that kind of man, anyways.

    I consider myself reminded!
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  32. I bet predators, men who want women they can easily manipulate and equally broken men find den o' cuttery customers attractive. After all, like attracts like.

    Who is more malleable than some chick who will turn herself inside out, literally, to match some unattainable ideal?
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  33. Uhh. Shouldn't you be credited Dave Winer here someplace?
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  34. Make that "crediting". Thanks.
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  35. Sorry, I'm confused. It's your retweet. My apologies. The mistake is all mine.
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  36. What I'm getting on about is Dave Winer's tweet:

    Dave Winer Example of an unfair retweet. He takes my words as his own, and says the link came to him "via" me. Not cool. http://c.oy.ly/xs36
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  37. And I have to add, great blog! I'm glad this craziness introduced it to me.
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  38. Excellent post. Shame about some of the commenters. But then I'm fat, what do I know? Oh, yeah, that I have partners who adore me, (yes, that is a plural and yes, they all know about each other) and that I am comfortable with how I look. I don't want to be skinny. Skinny does not always mean healthy. Having a six pack does not always mean you are healthy. You can look like the most amazing human specimen ever and still have fat clogged arteries.

    Women, be yourselves and be happy.
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  39. Healthy Guy says: Did you know being fat restricts your movement, endurance and sex drive?

    REALLY?? It does? I'd best tell my body then, because so far it hadn't known that and was getting on quite well. Better stop having sex then. Lordy knows what damage I'm doing. Halp! Halp! I'm fat! My life must end...farewell cruel world!:((
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  40. I just want to say, I wish there was a world full of men like Joe.

    You are a credit to you Mom....

    And family... and it made me happy to read this.

    Thank you for making feel like a true women.
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  41. AMEN! I've been saying this to the women I've been with and they all believe I'm "just saying" it to make them feel better. I wanted them to feel better to the point where they'd drop this foolish notion that they weren't already beautiful.
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  42. wow... that just made my day.... these are the stories and I-reports that cnn should be posting!! thanks for the spirit lifter
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  43. I just want to say, I wish there was a world full of men like Joe.

    You are a credit to you Mom....

    And family... and it made me happy to read this.

    Thank you for making feel like a true women.
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  44. right on the money, man. aside from looking, most men don't want anything to do with ladies like that. that's why vapid "hot" chicks always wonder why they don't get approached at bars. they're eye candy, but that's it.
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  45. Healthy Guy says: Did you know being fat restricts your movement, endurance and sex drive?

    REALLY?? It does? I'd best tell my body then, because so far it hadn't known that and was getting on quite well. Better stop having sex then. Lordy knows what damage I'm doing. Halp! Halp! I'm fat! My life must end...farewell cruel world!:((
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  46. Hear hear, man. I get so tired of seeing women I know go from absolutely beautiful to Get-This-Woman-A-Sandwich-Stat skinny and think they're IMPROVING themselves.

    Far be it from me to judge someone for lacking self confidence, but to all women: we men are generally not that picky. If you have other good qualities (ie: you're not a flipping psycho), we can see past whether your butt looks fat in a certain pair of jeans...In fact, we probably won't even notice unless you mention it!
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